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What is the NSA controversy and what did Edward Snowden leak?

Edward Snowden - NSA leaks

Originally published on June 13, 2013.

Updates as of August 1, 2013:

  • Russia has granted asylum for one year to Snowden that allows him to live, travel, and work there
  • Finally left the Moscow airport where he had been residing since June 23
  • Has been offered permanent asylum by four other countries — Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua and Ecuador though he has no plans to leave Russia
  • Snowden has been issued an international arrest warrant on espionage charges from the U.S.
  • U.S. asked Russia for Snowden’s extradition, they refused causing an even more strained relationship

What is the NSA and Snowden leak controversy?
Shortest answer: Edward Snowden leaked information regarding top-secret government surveillance programs.

In a video interview that took place in Hong Kong, Edward Snowden leaked National Security Agency (NSA) documents to The Guardian and The Washington Post regarding top-secret government surveillance programs at a Hong Kong hotel June 9, 2013. Snowden’s leak expanded an intense debate over the clash between national security and online privacy.

Snowden is currently said to be hiding in Moscow though alleged plans to fly to Ecuador on Monday, June 24th never come to fruition.

What exactly is the NSA?
Shortest answer: Intelligence agency that protects the U.S.’ information and looks for terrorist connections.

The National Security Agency (NSA) – a program that can be included in the “Big Brother is watching” phrase – is an intelligence agency in the U.S. government responsible for the collecting and analyzing foreign communication and foreign signals of intelligence in order to protect the U.S. government communications and information systems.

By law, NSA’s intelligence gathering is limited to foreign communications, although domestic incidents such as the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy have occurred.

Who is Edward Snowden?
Shortest answer: A government contractor that worked at an NSA center.

Edward Snowden, 30, was a three-month employee of a government consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton.

At Booz Allen (he has since been terminated), he worked as a systems administrator at an NSA Threat Operations Center in Hawaii, one of several facilities detect threats against government computer systems.

In other words, he was a low-level intelligence government contractor.

Source

What information did Edward Snowden leak?
Shortest answer: How much personal information the government has access to. A lot.

Snowden leaked information about two different NSA operations called PRISM:

  • Collection of data from U.S. phone call records to search for possible links to terrorists abroad
  • Surveillance of online communications to and from foreign targets to detect suspicious behavior

Snowden got his hands on a set of briefings and reports detailing how the NSA’s PRISM program retrieves information from prominent tech companies (Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.) without court orders or subpoenas.

Unsure of whether this is a case of media exaggeration or actual truth, the leak is said to be “one of the most sensational leaks of classified material in U.S. history” [USA Today].

What is the PRISM program and how can they access our information like that?
Shortest answer: Monitors private Web data if they feel it’s a threatening foreign exchange.

PRISM is used to monitor private Web data, but it cannot be used to intentionally target any U.S. citizen. However, analysts need to only be at least 51% confident the exchange they’re monitoring is foreign to access the information.

PRISM is a computer program used to collect and analyze data legally requested by the NSA and divulged by nine Internet companies (e.g., they asked for easy access to users’ information, the big tech guys said sure).

Companies include:

  • Microsoft
  • Yahoo
  • AOL
  • Facebook
  • Google
  • Apple
  • PalTalk
  • YouTube
  • Skype

The government can still access other companies’ servers that didn’t agree to this access if they have a legitimate request, but the tech companies are under no legal obligation to make that process easier.

How can you avoid this? You can’t.

Source

Why did Snowden leak the NSA documents?
Shortest answer: He believes he was being a public servant.

Snowden said he leaked the information to expose abuse and protect the public, not to cause damage.

If he really wanted to harm the U.S he could’ve leaked “the rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all around the world, the locations of every station, what their missions are and so forth”. [Video Transcript]

How did Snowden get access so easily to these documents?
Shortest answer: Snowden claims he was given access; admin officials say otherwise.

The leaked documents were highly classified that would presumably be sealed from most employees. Snowden claims he had authorized access, administration officials say otherwise.

Supposedly the NSA employs layers of security to scrutinize employees, including keystroke-monitoring systems to identify potential breaches or unwarranted searches of NSA databases. Yet, he got through these. [Washington Post]

Basically, no one is sure or at least admitting to giving him access.

Why is Snowden’s NSA leak a big deal? Is the NSA leak damaging to the United States?
Shortest answer: Potential damage to national security.

Government is currently running an internal review of the potential damage to national security. There are still unanswered questions about whether this information actually gives terrorists and other countries a leg up. On the other side, revealing these surveillance programs gives terrorists who are paying attention a head’s up on how to avoid detection. [American Thinker]

Is Edward Snowden a hero or a traitor?
Shortest answer: Some think he gave an advantage to our enemies, others say he sacrificed himself to expose government snooping.

His leak has sparked a mix of disapproval and praise.

Traitor

  • “Americans are at risk, it shows our adversaries what our capabilities are, and it’s a giant violation of the law,” John Boehner.
  • Some believe PRISM violates the 4th Amendment (the right to privacy). Lawmakers say it’s necessary to prevent terrorism.
  • He broke an oath of secrecy that he took willingly and he broke the law by disclosing government secrets. – Rick Moran  [American Thinker]

Hero

  • Social media overwhelmingly hailed Snowden as a hero for sacrificing himself to expose the government snooping.
  • The Guardian (the newspaper that Snowden gave the interview to) says he “will go down in history as one of America’s most consequential whistleblowers.”
  • He realized humanity was being compromised by the blind implementation of machines in the name of making us safe. [CNN]
  • “I think most Americans don’t want this surveillance. The civil disobedience happened when Snowden felt like he had no other options. [Reuters]
  • Thousands of Americans have signed a White House petition to pardon him
  • Any terrorist who doesn’t think they’re under constant surveillance anyway, is an amateur. [Business Insider]

Is the NSA surveillance program good or bad?
Shortest answer: Good – surveillance has helped stop attacks in the past. Bad – Americans deserve to know how much information the government has access to.

The debate right now is on the trade off between privacy and national security.

Surveillance is good

  • 56% of those polled said the NSA’s tracking of Americans’ phone calls to investigate terrorism is acceptable [USA Today]
  • Americans are not “snooped on” unless they communicate with a terrorist in another country [Reuters]
  • Past data mining exercises have stopped attacks in the United States and overseas
  • The programs provide leads to potential and existing terrorists
  • Since 9/11, there has only been two major terror attacks on U.S. soil (Boston Marathon, Shooting at Fort Hood) [Politifact]
  • Obama said he put strict protocols in place that require judicial review and a warrant for all PRISM targets. They said they are not listening to your conversations or reading emails, they’re simply identifying phone numbers that could be connected to terrorists.
  • Americans love to share data. We post photos and videos on social media without a second thought. Rarely do we think about what we’re letting the world know. [Business Insider]

Surveillance is bad

  • 41% of those polled said the National Security Agency’s tracking of Americans’ phone calls to investigate terrorism is acceptable [USA Today]
  • “Americans deserve to know how much information about their private communications the government believes it’s allowed to take under the law,” Senator Jeff Merkley, R
  • Where does it stop?
  • There is no assurance that the harvested information will not be misappropriated [Business Insider]
  • Some 1.4 million people have access to the country’s most sensitive information. Of those, one third are contractors.  Snowden showed that all it takes is one disgruntled employee to spill the country’s secrets. [Business Insider]

What is the government going to do?
Shortest answer: Snowden has been officially charged with espionage in the U.S. though Russia refuses to extradite him.

Snowden fled to Moscow from Hong Kong after his interview despite having a revoked U.S. passport in late June.

While Snowden has officially been charged with espionage and theft of government property, Obama has said he refuses to play games with Russia in order to get Snowden back. [source]

As of now, there is little the government can do though it does increase the already strained relationship of Russia and the US.

What will happen to Edward Snowden?
Shortest answer: He will live in Russia under the one year asylum approval for now.   

Snowden is currently in Russia on a one year asylum (when one is afraid to live in their own country, they can requested to live in another country, become a refuge) approval that will allow him to work, live and travel in the country.

Has been offered permanent asylum by four other Latin American countries — Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua and Ecuador though he has no plans to leave Russia

If Snowden is extradited back to the U.S., he will stand trial on charges of espionage and theft. 

Why did Edward Snowden choose Hong Kong to give the interview?
Shortest answer: Because of their commitment to free speech.

Snowden said he chose Hong Kong because of its commitment to free speech and political dissent (freedom to express dissatisfaction with the government).

Some argue that Hong Kong was a risky choice since they have an extradition treaty (agreement to surrender person(s) accused of a crime under the laws of the requesting state) with the United States.

How is the rest of the world affected by NSA’s surveillance program? How do they feel about the leak?
Shortest answer: Some aren’t very happy and will re-examine the information they give the U.S. access to.

Some foreign governments and groups (Asia, Europe) aren’t very happy with the United States.

  • The European Union has data protection laws in place and do not want mass surveillance. They may re-examine and limit the data they have given the U.S. access to.
  • Groups in Asia, including three supported by the United States, said they were worried the data collected in the surveillance programs could someday be used against them as they share a lot of sensitive, election-related data using online programs. [Reuters]

31 Responses to What is the NSA controversy and what did Edward Snowden leak?

  1. Nunzia Conzioni says:

    Why would our government give important information to any one person? Let people do a little of everything so they don’t know the full picture. And the people the government thinks can be trusted give them a lie detector test every month to keep them honest.

  2. Nick Yeates says:

    The people who run the infrastructure that the “secret” data lays on – its hard sometimes to limit their access. Those who actually put the parts in place and operate the servers and integrate the software components… You cant operate a huge complex system without some people having wide access. Or at least…. its hard. Govt’s probably do the best job at it over anyone else, but its still hard. Some one, and ussually multiple someone’s, have to have wide-scoping access.

    Anyway, the real thing to worry about is why our government cant figure out how to let the public decide on what is acceptable, without spilling all the beans. There are ways that you can generalize descriptions of programs, so as to get at the intent and implications, yet not the details. You can tell your enemy “hey, we are going to be watching you in more depth via private company data access, but you wont know the details of how and where”. Sure, now terrorists are going to stop using Google and Skype. But the real terrorists, who are REAL threats, already knew better. They stay off the radar to a much higher degree. They use open technologies like TOR (The Onion Router), to evade detection on the Internet. If you know what you are doing, you can easily evade being traceable.

    Actually, while on the subject, I dont think that terrorists are our real enemies to fear. It is other governments, private organizations, and sometimes our own government (though not yet) that could *really* take down our way of life. Terrorists bombing a tower, while extremely sad and unfortunate, is hardly a war. Its hardly put a dent in how we operate and live day to day. Even if I lost my parent to that bombing, I would not ask the US Govt to go around changing how we spend money and how we operate our information gathering, in order to kill this organization. They did little overall damage to the US as a whole. Russia, the world wars, Germany…. they are who we have legitatmely feared in the past. Nations with nuclear powers (Iran, N Korea), and leaning extremist thoughts (Iran, middle eastern countries), and mob-controlled leadership (Russia), and superior economic or population numbers (china, india), or groups who unknowingly subvert our own operations (private corps, US govt itself). Those are who we should fear. It would take decades, but targets like those are the ones who could take out the US’s comfy lifestyle.

    Not saying we dont focus on terrorism. Not at all. Just that we should prioritize it below many of the above other threats…. especially when it means Breaking Our Own Laws.

    I am for the metadata phone taps (I am not for full-convo taps). I am for limited Internet taps (much more limited than what they likely have now). I am against our government making wide-scoping decisions in secret.

    • kadeeirene says:

      Nick – thank you for taking the time to comment on my post. I really enjoy your point of view and the fact that you came here to have a discussion, not rip others for what they think or believe. As I’m sure you can tell, BoomerangBeat is a new website and I would love any feedback you can give on the site and content as a whole. Thank you again for reading and commenting. :)

      • Nick Yeates says:

        Glad you read it. I dont know what advise to give you. I read this article because it succintly gathered information from multiple places and had a fair degree of sourcing links. Keep it up!

  3. marcus says:

    Maybe Americans need to think about how they would react to being invaded and then occupied.I don’t believe invading other countries makes friends. If anything its making America a target. All this rubbish we see on the TV here in the US about the armed forces keeping the US safe just isn’t true. I remember the movie “Red Dawn” with Patrick Swayzy. In the movie America was invaded by Russia and Patrick and his mates headed for the mountains. They fought back using road side bombs and blowing up people in Cafes/coffee shops. Big Bad Terrorists i guess. Sounds familiar huh. Most people now agree America went into Iraq for the Oil. Not to free the Iraq people and Not to free the world of Weapons of Mass destruction. Maybe if America kept is nose out of other peoples business they might not have so many enemies around the world. Fat chance. I also believe the Government uses the big scary thought of “Terrorists” as a way to control and scare its own people into passing laws and spying on each other. Snowden has just scratched the surface i bet

    • kadeeirene says:

      Marcus – thank you for taking the time to read the post and giving thoughtful feedback. It’s opinions such as yours and Nates that help people see both sides of the story and THEN decide for themselves what they believe in. If you have any feedback for the post, I would love to hear it.

    • Muhammad Basit says:

      WELL SAID

    • doctor_555 says:

      My husband says I need to watch this movie… I guess I’ll watch it this weekend! What concerns me is I’m afraid the only reason they want to survey is for election time and for wall street ;) I’m looking forward to Red Dawn – I tried to watch the new one but again, my husband said not to bother with it, they had to make it politically correct and I should watch Mr Swayzy!

    • Kelsey says:

      I completely agree. I haven’t seen “Red Dawn” so I can’t speak to that. But the US is like that nosy person we all know that has to figure out what everyone else is doing then give their “two cents” on what to do. Well, give their “two cents” or invade..

  4. beo wulf says:

    Fact is he shouldn’t be in trouble at all. If he is saying the GOV is over stepping its legal boundaries, in all probability, he must be telling the truth. The GOV reaction is the tale of the tape. In my opinion, the Gov. is breaking constitutional law by spying on Americans in the name of preventing terrorism. If he was such a low level analyst as they are claiming then nothing would be happening. But, since Eric Holder and the other Gov. clowns are throwing such a fit, that gives substance to his claims. This is something the American public should know. And really its something the Gov. shouldn’t be doing. The fact is every communication on the planet is being monitored.
    When will it be enough. I mean think about it..Are terrorists really using the internet or cell phones to make plans? The answer is not just no, its ” Hell No”! Come on! Think about how ridiculous that sounds. If it was really about terrorism then we wouldn’t be worried about some terror supporting country’s political correctness viewpoint. The U.S. would go in and really get them and not worry about what any other country thought. The U.S. should get out of every other country’s business. And if another country even threatens us or terror attacks us, no matter how low the loss of life, we should lay them to waste for having let the terrorists reside there. A perfect example is Pakistan hiding Osama bin Laden. Should have smoked Pakistan’s ass. Plain and simple. Pakistan knew he was there.

  5. [...] waves of controversy and outrage following former CIA and NSA technical officer Edward Snowden’s leaks of details that reveal the US and British governments had been secretly deploying mass surveillance [...]

  6. doctor_555 says:

    Everyone seems to have forgotten – the information he leaked, belongs to me, belongs to you – to all Americans. They, work for me, for us – to keep us safe. They may be appointed or contracted but the info, the government, we own the them. And I sure hope that if any of us are found in his situation that we would make the best possible choice in a very difficult situation. He is an American and he took what already belonged to him and brought it to us to let us know what was going on in this new era of Facebook, Twitter and computers…. We pay taxes, we vote – it is our government, our info, our unalienable right – it does NOT belong to one group of entitled people or administration. It is our right to check and balance our employees; Just as the branches are to check and balance each other. They seem to be failing miserably and as the owner of this land it is our duty to ensure things are being done fairly, legitimately and legally. I do not want another 9/11, I want our soldiers home NOW to protect our boarders – I am for surveillance and I understand a mass amount of it must be done in secret, but when it comes to my cell phone, computer, my social media page… well, if you all were dense enough to think the government didn’t have the ability to listen in or hack in – that’s your own low level of intelligence. Just remember this is our country, our constitution. It is our duty to fight for her and for those who have lost their lives fighting for her too.

    • lalalayourcountrysuckslalala says:

      You define the following words: brain dead, hill billy, red neck, trailer trash, ghetto, sheep, but the best one is mental retardation. If your government was actually as smart as you stupidly think it is … you wouldn’t HAVE to protect your borders. Yes its borders not boarders, how you idiotically spelled it, but then again you’re a typical one, can’t even speak your own language and you lecture people on their low level of intelligence ? Grow a few teeth back, stop smoking your cracked ass cigarettes and get off your fat ass and do something about your stupid president and government you disgusting waste of space. I don’t even live in your country and people like you still piss me off. It’s actually your type of low level intelligence that brought your country to complete and utter shit. Have a nice life.

  7. marcus says:

    I havent had a chance to watch this but its suppose to be very eye opening. Dirty Wars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqKQFcFT4TY

  8. Clayton says:

    I just wanted to say that this is the first article I’ve seen where the story – aka the news has been presented without bias or sensationalism – and clear and concise facts. This truthfully is a marvel. Further, I like that when given an opinion on the facts – multiple opinions were represented of both sides. So often people blame the media for sensationalizing things and yet individuals flock to comment section to yell at others for believing something different, when both to me are wrong. Who are they to judge? Opinions are like #@$holes – everyone has one – but for some reason people feel comfortable rubbing theirs in other people’s faces. That or flaunting the same asinine opinion in unison, mooning the opposing cheeky opinionators.

    I shan’t judge whether this guy is a hero or a traitor publicly, as even though your article is well written – none but the parties involved will ever know the true facts of this matter. Nor am I a judge before this case or a God hehehe. I am human though and cannot help but form an opinion, but I’ll keep my pants on thank you.

    Again great article and website!

    In closing, we are so fortunate that many of us around the world have limited free speech (hence I had to censor a word above – I digress). But remember this:

    “It is better to have people think you a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain

    • Clayton says:

      In hindsight I apologize for even derriereing to rub my opinion on internet comments your faces. I feel so dirty now. I assumed I was right and all or at least most of you were wrong. You know what they say about assumptions,,, Doh someone donkey punch me! I’ve bottomed out sinking this low. But wait – then perhaps we are all wrong! Yes! Yes! Yes! Then in the END I am right! (sorry couldn’t work in abutment – but believe me I wanted to so very badly)

    • kadeeirene says:

      Clayton – thank you for taking the time to not only read my article but for giving your feedback. I’m not bothered by other people’s opinions, however, I am bothered by the news choosing to ignore education in favor of pressing their opinion on us. This does no one a favor in the long run. Thus, the reason for BoomerangBeat. I think it’s healthy and helpful to see both sides of a story though, you are right, no one can truly know everything. Even just seeing the opinions and feelings of the other side can help shed light on the situation and make you re-think what you thought. Your comment was truly insightful and please don’t apologize for it. You were not attacking anyone in this string (IMHO) and this type of feedback/conversation is what I hope BB serves as.

  9. Batista says:

    where can i find these documents @

  10. d.c. torres says:

    In my opinion some of these comments are just completely devoid of common sense. Obviously terrorists are threats and we need to keep them in check and we must always keep an eye on them. The government protects the people and I support big government. Without the government we can not survive in the world we live in today. As far as snowden is concerned- he is nothing but a traitor to the government and he should go to jail. There is nothing wrong with the government looking at our private information to find terrorists and it doesn’t affect any of these people complaining. That’s the problem with all these people that are complaining- they hide from the fact that this in no way affects their life and doesn’t change anything they do daily. Instead they just want to complain and fight the government because they do not realize that big government is the change we need.

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  12. ecw says:

    Who cares if the Govt. is monitoring my conversations with my husband or kids. Who cares how much porn people are watching, or that they hate their jobs. The information he leaked was useless, if the Govt. was holding a cure for Cancer then leak that but If you aren’t a terrorist who cares.That was a dumb reason to turn your life upside down.

    • Taiwanese Guy says:

      ECW,

      Oh yeah, who cares about having a FUNCTIONAL DEMOCRACY with BILL OF RIGHTS such as FOURTH AMENDMENT? BTW, YOU are THE ONES that would be USELESS in any SOCIETY for supporting EVEN more CORRUPTIONS in USA GOVERNMENT unlike Edward Snowden or Pat Tillman and many others that cared for TRUTH!! >=(

      “The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing” – Edmund Burke

      On TERRORISTS out there, didn’t CIA created Osama Bin Laden to fight Soviet Union? How about Chiang Kai-Shek CASH MY CHECK to fight against Imperial Japan? Didn’t USA also created Saddam Hussein during IRAN-IRAQ WAR? It must be really fun to have GULF WAR SYNDROME from USA supplied CHEMICAL and BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AGENTS! When USA blew up those DEPOTS with down winds carried those WARFARE AGENTS back to USA TROOPS, which is just like AGENT ORANGE!! {roll my eyes}

      SEARCH & READ “George Carlin! The Illusion Of Choice – gotknowledge1″
      SEARCH & READ “Even The Troops Are Waking Up”
      SEARCH & READ “John F. Kennedy Jr. from life to death – eagles2664″
      SEARCH & READ “Mediocracy – NXSchell”
      SEARCH & READ “George Carlin ~ The American Dream – wutdaflek”

      Of course, USA EMPIRE will NEVER be able to CURE CANCER any time soon considered that USA EDUCATION is SO DUMB-DOWN these days for THOSE Anti-Science PEOPLE that think STEM CELL RESEARCHES would be UN-GODLY! This is also because most of THESE Anti-Science IDIOTS can not figure out that 9/11 is really INSIDE JOB because JUMBO JETS can not bought down THOSE BUILDINGS without DEMOLITION CHARGE with THERMITE…. duh! I guess that USA ECONOMY won’t matter either because who needs THOSE High- Paying JOBS IN USA anyway!! =/

  13. […] many, the news was not surprising, but vindicating. The leaked information confirmed that the NSA was illegally obtaining meta-data from tech giants like Google, Apple, Facebook and others. However, the public seems largely […]

  14. Quora says:

    Why do some Americans believe Edward Snowden is not a hero?

    Did Edward Snowden do damage to the U.S. by calling his boss a liar? Did Edward Snowden give away secret information that can harm our military or the U.S. everyone knows everyone was spying. Perhaps, as some agree, he blew the whistle on his boss (Cla…

  15. Washington Darko says:

    I find that americans tend to be very hypocritical. It takes sacrifice for the freedoms and confortablity we live with on a regular basis. If we are doing nothing wrong what is there to worry about , what is so top secret that we lose our minds about somethin majority of americans already knew was happening. Snowden is a traitor and its just that simple. If he wanted to do what was best for Americans he would use the system we have in place make that happen even if it meant jail time because he would know his cause was right, great men of history spent time in jail for their causes perfect example martin luther king and nelson mandela. So for him to run to russia and china is not only being a coward, but showing that there must have been some alterior motive. He said he tried to go up the proper channels yet there is no record for that so now another possible question is did he try to blackmail someone and it didnt go his way so now hes trying to let everything? im pretty sure its more than just black or white like snowden is trying to make it seem

  16. […] Edward Snowden’s NSA revelations, as well as Target’s recent security breach, have brought to light the need for innovations in IT security and privacy. Furthering this need is the world’s increasing dependence on cloud computing. Gartner predicts “by 2016, poor return on equity will drive 60 percent of banks worldwide to process the majority of their transactions on the cloud.” If this doesn’t spur change in the way online information is made secure, nothing will. Global information group Experian believes “at least two-thirds of companies will buy cyber-breach insurance by the end of 2014,” and this protection should also be a priority for small businesses. […]

  17. liz says:

    No, I really don’t care if my calls are monitored… Except that it’s unconstitutional. If you think it’s a small and exceptable infringement, i think if it is an infringement, it is not acceptable. What kind of protest will be acceptable, what arms will be acceptable? When will it go far enough, at what point is it no longer acceptable to infringe? When it’s to late. Slowly but oh so assuredly we are no longer a nation with a government for the people but over the people. Also, for those decrying treason… Please read constitution article three.

  18. bucky89 says:

    Edward Snowden has no right to jeopardize my security and that of my family by releasing classified information that he stole from the government. Those were secrets that were paid for with my tax dollars, for a security infrastructure set up by a duly elected government. Who is he to unilaterally declare what is constitutional or not? He destroyed $billions of that investment only for the purpose of bringing fame to himself. This asshole Snowden is a narcissistic jerk who unilaterally thought he knew better than the rest of us.

    I believe he will eventually get what he deserves for his actions. Do you think the Russians will let him leave? I bet when his usefulness to the Russian propaganda machine eventually runs out, he’ll have some kind of “accident.” Then the Russians will blame it on the US for assassinating him.

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